As a huge fan of anything WWII, I am pleased to welcome Gry Finsnes, the author of Vanished in Berlin. A Norwegian by birth, Gry has lived in Sweden, India, England, Germany and France. After university studies in Oslo in French and
English literature, she started her career as a teacher, but had to
give it up as she moved out of the country. She has published two
thrillers in Swedish but has recently written in English. Vanished in Berlin explores the conflict of ethnic and political loyalties. If you love two countries and they go to war with each other, which one do you choose to fight for?
On racial purity
MJN: Germans viewed
Norwegians as equals in the sense of racial supremacy. They'd never
allow themselves to treat Norwegians the same way they treated,
say, Russians or Poles.
GJ: That is true. There were Russian prisoners of war in
Norway during the war and they were treated almost as slaves by the Germans.
Many died. The Norwegians were considered as a "pure" race and
marriages between Norwegians and Germans were encouraged.
Beyond Romeo & Juliet
MJN: What gives your novel universal appeal is the timeless subject of conflict of loyalties. The tale of Romeo & Juliet is just one example of that conflict. In sci-fi you deal with hybrid creatures, half-human half-whatever (fill in the blank: vampire, werewolf) who are torn by the same identity conflict.
MJN: What gives your novel universal appeal is the timeless subject of conflict of loyalties. The tale of Romeo & Juliet is just one example of that conflict. In sci-fi you deal with hybrid creatures, half-human half-whatever (fill in the blank: vampire, werewolf) who are torn by the same identity conflict.
GJ: In literature a conflict of loyalty has always been a
big theme. During the war, however, these conflicts were a horrible reality for
many people and had gruesome consequences. Germany was the country where many
Scandinavians were sent for their education, just like Ellen and Friedrich, the
main characters in my novel Vanished in Berlin. Germany was also an important
trade partner, and the politicians in Norway had close contacts with Germany
before Hitler attacked. Many Norwegians spoke fluent German and had traveled
around in Germany which had a lot to offer at that time. They liked the wine,
culture, education and music and not everyone was convinced that it was such a
bad idea to unite the two countries in the way that Hitler wanted. The
existence of labor camps must have been known, but the mass murder of people
who were not wanted was a secret at the beginning of the war. Slowly people
began to understand what the Nazis stood for and many changed sides. Those who
didn't were severely punished after the war.
Lovers on the run
Lovers on the run
MJN: Another timeless theme
that is sure to appeal to a rather broad readership is the concept of lovers on
the run. What girl doesn't fantasize about that? What are some of the
novels/films exploring similar themes that may have influenced your
writing?
GJ: I cannot really answer that question. I have seen so
many films and read so many books that I don't know which ones have influenced
me in any particular direction. It was convenient to let the lovers run for two
reasons: firstly because it makes the story more exciting and secondly I get to
describe several scenes of the invasion in a short time. I could e.g let them
be close to Midtskogen where the famous fight took place which stopped the
pursuers from catching the fleeing King HÃ¥kon.
The balance between romance and history
The balance between romance and history
MJN: Your novel is labeled
as a historical romance. Which component prevails? Would you
say it's a romance with a historical setting, or a historical with a touch of
romance?
GJ: The romance is important with its conflicting loyalties
as the underlying theme. So is the description of the invasion with a number of
details which I have heard from relatives, read in diaries and been told by
surviving war veterans. But if I have to choose, the romance has to be less
important than the background. This is an important part of Norwegian history
and we were not told a lot about these years by our parents. The school history
books stopped in 1940. A lid was put on the war and the occupation for a long
time, probably to protect the growing generation from the sins of their
parents. There were many Nazi sympathizers in Norway. Just now the old archives
are being opened and people can write in to ask about their families.
A Nazi with a heart of gold
A Nazi with a heart of gold
MJN: Lately it's been
fashionable to feature sensitive, tormented, conflicted Nazi soldiers in
films and books. It's interesting to see this pseudo-apologetic
trend. And it's true that in those ranks there were many decent human
beings who were forced to act against their sense of decency. The emphasis
is on condemning the movement but not the individual participants, on
separating love of Germany from the love of Hitler.
GJ: That is exactly what I have tried to do. I lived ten
years in Germany, between 1995 and 2005, and made many friends there. Of course
we all know that people are basically the same everywhere, but it was still an
eye-opener to discover that my German friends had the same moral values as
myself, that they hated the war as much as I did. My tennis friend always said:
That Stupid War! when she spoke about it. They took me to the Jewish cemetery
and showed me how pretty it was. They told me what a terrible time the war had
been for their families, how much they had lost. Hitler was not Germany, it is
important to remember that.
When the girl becomes the protector
When the girl becomes the protector
MJN: Let's talk a bit about
gender roles and how values have changed, and how your book would've been received
50 years ago. Pacifism and evasion of military service was frowned
upon. Friedrich not only refuses to pick sides and fight, he also accepts
his girlfriend's assistance in concealing his true identity in pretending to be
Dutch. It's easy to understand why a sensitive artistic man would want to
avoid participating in the war. Still, I imagine some readers would
call him a "wimp", even today, for relying on his girlfriend for
safety. Can you talk a little bit about how the expectations have
changed?
GJ: Actually there were Germans hiding in Norway from their
own kind. Willy Brandt was one of them. He later became Chancellor of Germany
and the time his Norwegian wife had hidden him in Norway spoke in his favor. He
had not been a Nazi, that was certain. Friedrich may seem like a wimp in the
beginning, but he later reacts against his situation and tells Ellen that he is
tired of being her marionette, doing what she tells him to. The gender roles
have changed a lot since then, there is no question about that. Ellen becomes
the protector instead of being protected by her man in the traditional way. But
this is not an everyday situation, they have no choice. Since Viking times
there have been women left alone who had to take care of their families. I
think this would have been understood 50 years ago as well.
As the generations that lived through the WWII years leave the scene, it is essential that authors like Gry Finsnes write about that era. I refer particularly to the Nazis' role in the Holocaust, a very real and tragic chapter that certain reactivists posing as historians try so hard to dispute.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Sal. There are so many aspects to the war that were not illuminated properly.
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